Live in Edinburgh 80 dvd project
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I think this should be make as dvd also...as previous dvd was taken from my older broadcast that was not first generation copy either and now i had chance to get 1st copy from different broadcast that is overall better than previous release...i dont think you can find better copy from this unless you get copy from masters.

 

Also sound is excellent since its been recorded with hifi vcr from stereo broadcast i think...though i dont think that MO concert was stereo recording at all but still sounds better than the ones before.

 

sample1 (from JVC HR-S7722): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SQZZNPCZ

sample2 (from JVC HM-DR10000): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=54B76MJR

 

its not doctored any way so its direct recording from vhs tape using vcr with digipure technology and time base corrector.

 

 Couple screenshots (from interlaced source)...it looks better in moving picture though.

 

 

Message edited on 02/11/2008 17:06:29 by samuli2
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2 Noviembre 2008, 14:39:41
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Great quality indeed !


I cannot open it with Media Player. Could you help me?


(I have opened it with Media Player Classic instead)


Thank you very much.


Great stuff!


2 Noviembre 2008, 15:56:07
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Esto es un trabajo para Producciones TSODE, por favor.

2 Noviembre 2008, 21:24:04
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I recorded it now using other vcr and i got a bit different result out from it so i add sample here from same part as first sample.


 


First sample was out from vcr JVC HR-S7722 with digipure 3r and tbc on...second sample is out from vcr JVC HM-DR10000 with digipure 3r and tbc on.


First sample looks good and almost noiseless in 42" lcd tv but isnt as sharp as second sample...second sample has more background noise which is easy to see in big screen tv but also picture is more detailed.


I would prefer myself 2nd version even with more noise but also that recording got few framesync errors while the first one doesnt have....i think those small framesync errors could be manually fixed with computer.


maybe we could add both recordings into same dvd?

3 Noviembre 2008, 0:11:23
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samuli2 sagte: maybe we could add both recordings into same dvd?

Yes, why not? And also, we can include the audio version of this show if someone can provide a lossless version that we can include as an extra or an Easter Egg.

 


Also, if you or somebody else can provide a good version of the Dortmund 80 show, maybe both could be included in just one DVD.

3 Noviembre 2008, 19:29:04
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dortmund is nearly 1 hour so with 8mbps rate it would take 3.5gb atleast....recording i got is released before but it was doctored in pc...raw one is with heavy colors and as well alot color noise...also i cannot use tbc with that without getting heavy jitter so cannot enchance it any way.

 

im quite sure someone else have better recording from dortmund...i got my copy long time ago from stefan koechling from germany.

 

full edinburgh 80 audio in lossless format here


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3 Noviembre 2008, 22:16:21
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Does this audio come from the same tape/VOB files than the video or it is from a different source?

11 Noviembre 2008, 16:51:35
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same tape

11 Noviembre 2008, 17:25:51
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yo lo haría pero ahora mismo estoy algo liado, si teneis paciencia bien, si no puede hacerlo otro.


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17 Noviembre 2008, 9:24:19
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I've downloaded the 2 samples posted  by  Samulli 2, the image's  quality of the is really very good.


I hope some one  could have enough time and experience to  realise a DVD, it would be great.


One more time, thanks to Samui2 for sharing his material .


He bajado los 2 samples puestos por Samuli2, la calidad de la imagen es muy buena !


Espero que alguien  tenga bastante tiempo y experiencia para realizar el DVD, seria Genial  !


Otra vez, gracias a Samuli2 por compartir.


 


Un salu2 a todos

20 Noviembre 2008, 14:13:45
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I have vob files ready in hdd...just need someone to do authoring work.

8 Diciembre 2008, 20:41:53
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Delete CHIMES.WAV

 


tsode dijo:

yo lo haría pero ahora mismo estoy algo liado, si teneis paciencia bien, si no puede hacerlo otro.



 


DBLoo, where are you?



8 Diciembre 2008, 20:54:16
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Is it needed to crop margins in this video?

9 Diciembre 2008, 0:19:28
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yes and as well make menus

9 Diciembre 2008, 23:34:44
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I don't know how to crop edges, specially without resampling the video (if this is possible).


About authoring, there are some tutorials on the NET. Here are a couple:

http://www.videohelp.com/oldguides/sefy/?id=start4.html (in english)

http://www.mundodivx.com/autoriadvd/index.php (in spanish)


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No se como cortar los margenes para eliminar el ruido, especialmente sin resamplear el vídeo (si eso es posible).


Sobre la autoría, en internet se pueden encontrar varios manuales. Aquí os dejo un par:

http://www.mundodivx.com/autoriadvd/index.php (en castellano)

http://www.videohelp.com/oldguides/sefy/?id=start4.html (en inglés)

13 Diciembre 2008, 14:24:12
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im making this project by myself during christmas...i probably add dortmund 80 show in same disc depends if it will fit

16 Diciembre 2008, 23:53:08
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Thanks Samuli2 !!!


Then, could you put the link on Emule to download it ??


Thanks


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17 Diciembre 2008, 21:18:41
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not me i generally dislike emule because torrent is much better....anyway i decide to not add dortmund because previous release from it looks much better as its doctored.


does anyone have somewhat good recording from Roskilde 1982?


im thinking to make it as dvd but i dont have very good one so i was wondering if anyone got better recording so i dont need to waste time.

18 Diciembre 2008, 2:25:16
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I can't recall watching Roskilde 82...


What aboout adding Munich...80? 82? Whichever Orchestral TB was played there.



18 Diciembre 2008, 2:28:12
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here is short sample video from roskilde 82 that i try to restore....test sample is in xvid format and doctored


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9DG6OJM2


since my both roskilde shows has tape errors there and there i think i could get edited one show out from those 2 recordings but its very time consuming project so i would like to know if there is anyone here who own better version.

18 Diciembre 2008, 4:33:57
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I got it in a DVD compilation called Live 1979-1982. I think is average quality. May this be one of the versions you have?



 

18 Diciembre 2008, 20:54:34
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i dont have that compilation...i have both recordings in vhs tapes...but id like to see sample from that compilation version

19 Diciembre 2008, 4:56:29
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It is not as good as I remembered, in fact it doesn't have good quality. But I will try to get a sample for you .


About the covers you ask for the Edimburgh video, I can adapt to DVD size the ones I did some time ago for the audio version: http://www.mike-oldfield.es/verfoto.asp?id=5241 (but getting new and better screen shots from the present version).

26 Diciembre 2008, 21:47:06
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Sorry for the delay. Here's the promised sample. As you can see it sounds OK to me but the picture is not that good. And the sound is compressed to AC3.


Roskilde 82 sample: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=SYE4GR2O 


Spinne dijo: Does this audio come from the same tape/VOB files than the video or it is from a different source?  
samuli2 dijo: same tape

I asked about this 'cause the audio have a couple of missing "beats" in Ommadawn and The Sailor's Hornpipe. Now that the video is available I can see that this doesn't happen on the DVD. So, I wonder that if a fix could be provided.



 And thanks once again to share this with all of us .

13 Enero 2009, 0:28:33
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Spinne said:

Sorry for the delay. Here's the promised sample. As you can see it sounds OK to me but the picture is not that good. And the sound is compressed to AC3.


Roskilde 82 sample: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=SYE4GR2O 


Spinne dijo: Does this audio come from the same tape/VOB files than the video or it is from a different source?  
samuli2 dijo: same tape

I asked about this 'cause the audio have a couple of missing "beats" in Ommadawn and The Sailor's Hornpipe. Now that the video is available I can see that this doesn't happen on the DVD. So, I wonder that if a fix could be provided.  And thanks once again to share this with all of us .



 


I watched sample and imo it looks horrrible compared to what i got out from my vhs tape ;)


I have 2 versions in vhs...other is good and stable in picture wise (not much errors) and other is with better sound but has alot of tape errors and picture is moving left to right (possibly same source as that dvd sample was from)


And i probably get to borrow tape where my visually better copy is made from so could get even better result.


 


About edin audio...those short cuts i remember now why they was appearing in flac version...i made them in purpose when i cut wav files because after i recorded thing in hdd i noticed that recording had 2 not wanted sound from MSN messenger logins so i cut out those msn blings and didnt bother to re record whole thing ;)


I dont have that edin tape anymore in my possession so its all i have for now.

13 Enero 2009, 21:33:09

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